• Friday, September 23, 2022 1:05 PM
    Message # 12930358
    Al Moon (Administrator)


  • Saturday, September 24, 2022 9:51 AM
    Reply # 12930887 on 12930358


    Just to be a pain but also to hammer home a very important NFPA point which was much discussed this last cycle: The healthcare facility's governing body or it's designee shall establish the following areas in accordance with the type of patient care anticipated:

    (1) Category 1 spaces

    (2) Category 2 spaces

    (3) Category 3 spaces

    (4) Category 4 spaces

    So, unless they somehow become the "facility's designee", this is not a decision the verifier makes - they must be told.

    Now, if I were unfortunate enough to be the Designee in this case, I would probably opt for Category 2.

  • Sunday, September 25, 2022 1:18 PM
    Reply # 12931575 on 12930358
    Al Moon (Administrator)

    Yes Sir,

    Right As Rain Again.

    The Verifier should not be the person Choosing or Defining the Category Type.

    Was just hoping for a Straw Vote from my Peer Group.

    Thanks for your input.

  • Sunday, September 25, 2022 10:52 PM
    Reply # 12931949 on 12930358

    All the facilities we have seen like this have been Category 2. We agree that it should be treated like long term care situations but, like Mark said, the facility is"supposed" to tell you even though they usually don't have a clue.

  • Thursday, September 29, 2022 8:08 AM
    Reply # 12936370 on 12930358

    Since the facility is required to document their risk assessment to determine the category, we ask for this risk assessment document prior to verification. If they do not have a risk assessment document, then we must assume that the facility is a category 1 facility, and perform our verification testing accordingly. 

  • Friday, September 30, 2022 11:31 AM
    Reply # 12938053 on 12930358
    Deleted user

    If we have any questions about the type of facility and there's no documentation we test to Cat One.

    Put the pressure on the facility to justify if its anything less.

    The verifier should never be the one to determine a facilities status.

  • Sunday, October 02, 2022 1:23 AM
    Reply # 12939400 on 12930358

    Thank you for the input. We will be sure to default to Category I when they are unable to provide a credible document.

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