Lowering house pressure to test alarms

  • Monday, January 23, 2023 6:28 PM
    Message # 13069865
    Jim Brusse (Administrator)

    We picked up a new account where they want us to do what the other guys did.  Apparently to test all the high and low alarms facility wide (> 3,800 outlets/inlets) Company B would lower the house pressure to 40ish psi to trigger all the alarms, once confirmed each alarm functioned properly the house pressure would be restored.  I don't think they tested for high pressure.

     so to nip this in the bud, what publication/section can I refer to that will show that is a terrible method? 


  • Tuesday, January 24, 2023 9:42 AM
    Reply # 13070639 on 13069865
    Cary Darden (Administrator)

    Hi Jim, do you know if the facility has DISS demand check fittings on their main line pressure switches?

  • Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:25 AM
    Reply # 13070722 on 13069865
    Mathis Carlson (Administrator)

    Take it for what it is, Annex D in ASSE 6000

    D.5.5 High/Low Pressure Alarms

    a) If the pressure/vacuum sensors are installed

    with gas-specific demand check fittings, they

    can be removed from the piping system and

    individually tested using a source of test gas or

    vacuum.

    b) For positive pressure gases:

    1) Reduce the pressure to 20% below normal.

    Verify that the appropriate alarm trips.

    Silence the audible alarm. The visual alarm

    should remain activated.

    2) Raise the pressure to normal. The visual

    alarm should be deactivated.

    3) Raise the pressure to 20% above normal.

    Verify that the appropriate alarm trips.

    Silence the audible alarm. The visual alarm

    should remain activated.

    4) Reduce the pressure to normal. The visual

    alarm should be deactivated.

    c) For vacuum alarms:

    1) Decrease the vacuum from normal to 300

    mm (12 in) Hg. Verify that the appropriate

    alarm activates. Silence the audible alarm.

    The visual alarm should remain activated.

    2) Increase the vacuum to normal. The visual

    alarm should be deactivated.


  • Wednesday, January 25, 2023 8:49 AM
    Reply # 13072251 on 13069865

    Jim,

    See CGA E-10, 7.4.1.4 High/Low pressure signal

    "If the pressure switches are not provided with DISS or quick-connect demand valves, a test of these alarms requires changing the pressures throughout the entire facility and should be conducted with the same preparations used if the system is completely shut down."


    Although we have never done this test in this method, it appears that it is one of the test methods that is documented. The key is if the facility has demand checks on the switches. If they do, there is little reason to test by adjusting the system pressures. If they do not have demand checks, then it appears the testing method would be to have the facility remove patients from the piped gas system during the testing, similar to a whole system shutdown.

    Hope this helps.

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